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first of all, it's widely known out there that john kerry wants the job. but, of course, you know, the story we've all been talking about that susan rice appears to be above on that list. that's the first thing. all of this speculation about who could get that job and, you know, if he got that job then this person could pick up the seat in massachusetts, it really is all just sort of hypothetical here. the president has not put forward a nomination yet. there's a lot of wrangling going on. democrats are saying republicans are playing politics here. at the end of the day, it's all hypothetical until the president puts a nomination on. >> it's interesting to watch and chat about. dan lothian, thank you. >> okay. >>> it's a black friday hangover for a major retailer and a black eye. coming up, the complaints, a slew of complaints in the wake of a holiday sales frenzy. we'll tell you where it happened. if you're leaving your house, watch us on your desk top or mobile phone just go to cnn.com/tv. plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more ca
first of all, it's widely known out there that john kerry wants the job. but, of course, you know, the story we've all been talking about that susan rice appears to be above on that list. that's the first thing. all of this speculation about who could get that job and, you know, if he got that job then this person could pick up the seat in massachusetts, it really is all just sort of hypothetical here. the president has not put forward a nomination yet. there's a lot of wrangling going on....
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. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. i suspect that there are also people that are skeptical that senator kerry shares that position. >> he's more dovish than rice. >> a lot of folks including bill crystal who actually care about these things, are saying wait a second, republicans, susan rice might be a better pick than john kerry. >> he was very careful and he's been careful to not say he's for or against susan rice but he did have a warning for the president. here he is. >> i would just ask that the president step away from all the buzz around this particular situation and take a deep breath and decide who is the best secretary of state for our country, at this time when we have so many issues to deal with. >
. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. i suspect that there are also people that are skeptical...
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>> i think john kerry would be an excellent choice. he obviously has had many years of experience. he's traveled around the world and is respected for his knowledge in foreign policy. and i would predict that he would be easily confirmed. >> senator collins, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >>> extraordinary never-before-seen pictures of albert einstein's brain, brain. up next, our own dr. sanjay gupta with a look at what they could reveal about this legendary genius. made a commitm. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, andver again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can
>> i think john kerry would be an excellent choice. he obviously has had many years of experience. he's traveled around the world and is respected for his knowledge in foreign policy. and i would predict that he would be easily confirmed. >> senator collins, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >>> extraordinary never-before-seen pictures of albert einstein's brain, brain. up next, our own dr. sanjay gupta with a look at what they could reveal about...
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bush, john kerry. they talked on the phone about healing and they never talked again. and kerry served on the senate. i mean -- okay, but let's imagine. i'm just going to go with will and look upon this as glass half full. what if, roland -- what if mr. obama could find something for romney to do and romney agreed to do it? >> yeah. white house usher. there's a lot of jobs mitt romney could do for the president. look, first of all, if we're going to do this lunch don't do it at the white house. the president should have taken mitt romney to ben's chili bowl, get a half smoked and he could meet the 47%. i have no problems with it but i certainly think for mitt romney it's going to be one heck of a lunch, having to see the president sit there and smile at him and say you know i kicked your behind. you know i did, didn't you? i think there is a role for individuals who run for president of the united states in terms of still operating in the public space. because, again, we need all ideas on the table. so i'm sure the president, he's got a whole bunch of stuff he could as
bush, john kerry. they talked on the phone about healing and they never talked again. and kerry served on the senate. i mean -- okay, but let's imagine. i'm just going to go with will and look upon this as glass half full. what if, roland -- what if mr. obama could find something for romney to do and romney agreed to do it? >> yeah. white house usher. there's a lot of jobs mitt romney could do for the president. look, first of all, if we're going to do this lunch don't do it at the white...
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you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he still has three things, family, faith and financial security. yes, and remember, romney is a multimillionaire several times over. so it's not like he needed the job. right now romney is subletting a space his ton's investment firm in boston. he'll be in the same building, i think it's a safe bet, wolf, we will be hearing from him again in some capacity or another, wolf. >> i'm sure we will. he'll do just fine. >> right. >> thanks very much. >>> the accused mastermind behind 9/11 potentially closer to coming to this very country he allegedly conspired to attack. >>> m
you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he...
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john kerry would pretty much breeze through. kerry is friends with mccain and could do bipartisanship. look, we have big problems in pakistan, afghanistan, iran. the whole middle east is a tender box. it's time to get somebody like john kerry above the fold instead of everything being about susan rice and benghazi. >> let's look at some of the positions that are open. is there a potential here for the president to reach across the aisle? he's talked about ushering in a new bipartisanship. are there some new republicans that would be good choices, good picks for any one of the open cabinet picks? >> absolutely. franklin roosevelt did this. he picked secretary frank knox, both republicans. bob gates was kept as secretary of defense. somebody like including hag echl hagel would go very far. everybody on capitol hill likes him. >> is there anybody that you think would make a real impact, a real different approach, even a cabinet shakeup that would dramatically form what we are going to see in the second term for president obama? >>
john kerry would pretty much breeze through. kerry is friends with mccain and could do bipartisanship. look, we have big problems in pakistan, afghanistan, iran. the whole middle east is a tender box. it's time to get somebody like john kerry above the fold instead of everything being about susan rice and benghazi. >> let's look at some of the positions that are open. is there a potential here for the president to reach across the aisle? he's talked about ushering in a new bipartisanship....
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kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on. you've got issues that have to do with egypt, foreign aid to egypt. you have gaza. why do you want to have another ring there? and start dealing with this confirmation battle which is as wolf pointed out earlier the optics of a confirmation battle with susan rice. african-american woman. two groups that the republican party did not do very well with i might add in the last election. >> acknowledging they need to do better. >> i don't mean to impugn john mccain or lindsey graham for criticizing her. i think they have their reasons and nothing to do with anything other than benghazi butoptics i republican party i
kerry who's the other potential nominee and maybe take susan rice instead of john kerry. >> when you think of the dynamics on capitol hill and the relationship when from capitol hill to the white house, i mean, what impact do you think a bruising battle over susan rice would be and the other things they're running on? >> exactly. i mean, you know, you could have a three-ring circus or cut down one of the rings and push it to the side and you have got the fiscal cliff going on....
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john kerry may have lost for any number of reasons. including massachusetts. there has only been one time in american history that ohio has voted for a mass.-based presidential candidate. you actually make a better case that john kerry lost in ohio because of massachusetts. asked governor romney. same problem. even ohio. for the country, it is not quite settled on this issue. it would be smart for the court -- it' s dumb or doma. the title of an article. doma is a profoundly stupid statute and it creates lots of dysfunctions and problems and headaches just to administer. it was passed in an hysterical fit. those are not constitutional arguments. the problem for justice ginsburg and justice kennedy is take that intuition and then somehow [unintelligible] it. rohmer can be read for almost anything or nothing, depending on what you want to do with it. that is what i think the boston university opinion is such a good one. it is highly respectful of all the stuff the supreme court is interested in. its route itself and all these great supreme court decisions. -- it
john kerry may have lost for any number of reasons. including massachusetts. there has only been one time in american history that ohio has voted for a mass.-based presidential candidate. you actually make a better case that john kerry lost in ohio because of massachusetts. asked governor romney. same problem. even ohio. for the country, it is not quite settled on this issue. it would be smart for the court -- it' s dumb or doma. the title of an article. doma is a profoundly stupid statute and...
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. >> john kerry has been very active in this issue. i think it will require a presidential push to convince a few. i think it's important that we move forward with that. just one additional thing. as i mentioned, and as we know, the world is so rapidly changing. the unpredictability of the world is the one thing but i think we would all agree on. look at the world, as i mentioned last night, the first time we convened here and look at it today. what will it be like four years from now darks we don't know. we have no real idea. anyone who predicted the world four years ago would like -- would be like this today, i would like to meet year. -- i would like to meet yuo. we need common principles of international behavior. we have to stick to those principles. all of us, at least during the cold war, we lived in a very predictable world. we did. we knew the divisions and capabilities. we do not know what's going to happen. i don't know what will happen in china. i tell believe that 1.3 billion people are going to be satisfied forever under
. >> john kerry has been very active in this issue. i think it will require a presidential push to convince a few. i think it's important that we move forward with that. just one additional thing. as i mentioned, and as we know, the world is so rapidly changing. the unpredictability of the world is the one thing but i think we would all agree on. look at the world, as i mentioned last night, the first time we convened here and look at it today. what will it be like four years from now...
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kerry in the democratic convention and asked who he was. my son said, do you mean a guy can be secretary of state? i did tell secretary clinton that very quickly. i bet she would love it. we have made huge progress. i am convinced we can do this. >> i will ask one more question, because i know we have a big crowd here. i love that story. let's talk for a moment about women and men who choose not to have children or couples who choose not to have families or same-sex couples who choose not to have families. or maybe they may not be considered to be a family. there are a lot of situations that are not the traditional situations of a mother who wants to go home with their children. we talk about making family friendly workplace rules, for example, a school day, what about those people who have chosen -- people with children are still going to be considered -- the people who do not have children, do the workplace rules of the feature -- are they discriminating against their choices? what's i think there are a number of ways to think about it. i
kerry in the democratic convention and asked who he was. my son said, do you mean a guy can be secretary of state? i did tell secretary clinton that very quickly. i bet she would love it. we have made huge progress. i am convinced we can do this. >> i will ask one more question, because i know we have a big crowd here. i love that story. let's talk for a moment about women and men who choose not to have children or couples who choose not to have families or same-sex couples who choose not...
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john kerry, bob dole, and others. all of whom served their country with honor. he said -- if you have had that experience, not much is left and right that will intimate you. nothing did intimate warren rudman. he was fearless in the pursuit for the right. he served on the ethics committee where i first got to know him. i got a call from david souter. he gave me an assignment. i was a new senator. the assignment was not an easy one. they thought i could do it. it worked out just fine. i get to know him very well. on the ethics committee, he was known as mr. integrity. he was known as mr. integrity in everything he did in life. it is because of him and his high regard for this young man who he recommended be on the supreme court but i was able to make a friend. i have known a lot of people who have served on the supreme court. i have a friend in david souter. we have spent so many -- so much quality time. a lot of that time has been spent talking about warren rudman. we have laughed and found a few times about warren rudman. i for no other reason will always remem
john kerry, bob dole, and others. all of whom served their country with honor. he said -- if you have had that experience, not much is left and right that will intimate you. nothing did intimate warren rudman. he was fearless in the pursuit for the right. he served on the ethics committee where i first got to know him. i got a call from david souter. he gave me an assignment. i was a new senator. the assignment was not an easy one. they thought i could do it. it worked out just fine. i get to...
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people who ran, i know a couple of senators who ran i think first in 1983 like john kerry. he said in his campaign the issue never came up because there was no clash. there was no conflict. part of the deal was, i mean, look, obama and speaker boehner would have a much harder time making a deal because they had problems in both of their parties as they say, but in talking about this with them if they'd had -- what's the word? -- courage to say let's make a deal and go out, get before the microphones and the cameras and say this is what it's going to be, and this is going to be painful, and we're going to ask all democrats and republicans to vote for it because we have to protect our financial future, because that's what it's about at the end. they essentially told me they thought it would work, that they could have done it. and, of course, they did not. yes. >> are bob, that's a good lead-in to my question. the grand bargain that came to the floor towards the end, the president put entitlements on the table. i don't recall the world unraveling from that notion. how real do
people who ran, i know a couple of senators who ran i think first in 1983 like john kerry. he said in his campaign the issue never came up because there was no clash. there was no conflict. part of the deal was, i mean, look, obama and speaker boehner would have a much harder time making a deal because they had problems in both of their parties as they say, but in talking about this with them if they'd had -- what's the word? -- courage to say let's make a deal and go out, get before the...
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kerry john kerry we love john kerry. >> stephanie: why not john kerry kerry? okay president obama. >> obama: susan rice is extraordinary. i couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. >> he said that with the cabinet surrounding him. that's who is applauding. >> stephanie: adam schiff called the criticism a transparent attempt to deny obama the potential cabinet choice. i'm going to come looking--oh 1998 so i'm going back? so right, she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs in the clinton administration. collins she had she pressed rice about the security of the embassy of nairobi in 1998. rice told her she was not involved directly involving the request for security. the review board at that time did not find reasonable cause that any u.s. employee was involved with the bombing. >> the chat room is bombing her for everything. susan rice didn't put the candle back. susan rice is luke's father. susan rice's husband always leaves the seat up. susan rice built the iceberg to take down the titanic. >> she built the rice-berg. >> our chat room
kerry john kerry we love john kerry. >> stephanie: why not john kerry kerry? okay president obama. >> obama: susan rice is extraordinary. i couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. >> he said that with the cabinet surrounding him. that's who is applauding. >> stephanie: adam schiff called the criticism a transparent attempt to deny obama the potential cabinet choice. i'm going to come looking--oh 1998 so i'm going back? so right, she was assistant secretary of...
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therefore he nominates john kerry. which opens up a senate seat in massachusetts for scott brown. >> i've already thought of that. >> bill: do you think that could be what this is all about? >> i think it could be what it is all about. it could also be about misogyny and racism in addition although that doesn't count for kelly ayotte. she has her own tea party ambitions. >> bill: don't you think lindsey graham and john mccain brought her in so there is a woman in the room? >> i think she's happy to be used because she's ambitious. i think it is quite possible. even if she is nominated he could be off of dod. that's a possibility too. so it still opens up a slot for scott brown. >> bill: the other news, of course -- assuming he could win by the way. there is that. he just lost. >> bill: he just lost and there is also duval patrick and marquee standing by. it is not an automatic. i do want to ask about this. the lead headline in "the washington post" this morning you know this, of course from your perch at the white hous
therefore he nominates john kerry. which opens up a senate seat in massachusetts for scott brown. >> i've already thought of that. >> bill: do you think that could be what this is all about? >> i think it could be what it is all about. it could also be about misogyny and racism in addition although that doesn't count for kelly ayotte. she has her own tea party ambitions. >> bill: don't you think lindsey graham and john mccain brought her in so there is a woman in the...
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but a bigger part is that if john kerry's chosen instead they think scott brown will be able to fill his senate seat. dick says please point out that republicans have named as chairman of all of their committees that they're responsible for with all white men. no women or people of color. will they never learn? no they will never and have never learned anything! >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning, everybody. it is thursday, november 29. maybe you already know that. welcome to the "full court press." good to see you this morning. thank you for joining us here as we boom out to you live all the way across this great land of ours on current tv. bringing you all of the stories of the day. from our nation's capital. that's where you'll find us right here on capitol hill. or around the country. around the globe. we've got it covered. we want to know what it all means to you. give us a call at 1-866-55-press. poor susan rice still getting hammered by senate republicans. yesterday, oklahoma's james inhoff said that her respo
but a bigger part is that if john kerry's chosen instead they think scott brown will be able to fill his senate seat. dick says please point out that republicans have named as chairman of all of their committees that they're responsible for with all white men. no women or people of color. will they never learn? no they will never and have never learned anything! >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning,...
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. >> stephanie: the rumor is that they'll nominate john kerry and scott brown can run and get a senate seat back. who knows. >> cenk: well, the rumor here as you probably know, that dynamic would be in play any way. >> stephanie: that's what i was thinking. he's going to be nominated any way. >> caller: i don't know what their game is. >> stephanie: who knows. it's always like a rubics cube. thank you for joining us were the bourbon caucus. we love him. >> i love him so much. >> stephanie: felecia, go ahead. >> caller: you keep calling me felecia, i love it. >> feletia. >> caller: john mccain needs to settle down on the criticism of susan rice. he was going with sarah palin. that's ridiculous. i want to lend my support to your gay rights issues. in the community that you face, it's actually ridiculous to think that we should put opinions of christians on people and just tell them the truth. >> stephanie: yeah, you know i-- >> caller: regardless, because that's what jesus did. hehe said i'm going to love you regardless. >> stephanie: he never said anything about homosexuality which why
. >> stephanie: the rumor is that they'll nominate john kerry and scott brown can run and get a senate seat back. who knows. >> cenk: well, the rumor here as you probably know, that dynamic would be in play any way. >> stephanie: that's what i was thinking. he's going to be nominated any way. >> caller: i don't know what their game is. >> stephanie: who knows. it's always like a rubics cube. thank you for joining us were the bourbon caucus. we love him. >> i...
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obama could decide to go with john kerry or jane armen or who knows who else, right? susan rice has to go up to the united states senate today and meet with -- she will, meet with john mccain and lindsey graham and a couple of other senators and try to explain herself. she shouldn't have to do that. i think it is embarrassing. kevin is calling from chicago. what do you think kevin? >> caller: hey, how do youing, bill? >> bill: good to hear from you. >> caller: if they were a legitimate news organization, wouldn't you go with the fact -- take whatever your guest says and you go with it. but since everybody knows they're the mouthpiece of the republicans, i find it amusing that they're so inept they don't even see what their guest is going to say. it is like how dumb are they? it just reinforcing the bumper sticker on my car as i drive to work this morning. fox news, the more you watch the less you know. >> bill: i like that! send me one. where did you get it? kevin, it let me tell you doing a lot of tv, making a living at it. whenever you're a guest on program like tha
obama could decide to go with john kerry or jane armen or who knows who else, right? susan rice has to go up to the united states senate today and meet with -- she will, meet with john mccain and lindsey graham and a couple of other senators and try to explain herself. she shouldn't have to do that. i think it is embarrassing. kevin is calling from chicago. what do you think kevin? >> caller: hey, how do youing, bill? >> bill: good to hear from you. >> caller: if they were a...
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can john kerry be retroactively named president after president obama? >> no. >> stephanie: why not? >> because. >> stephanie: okay. >> no, he can't be. >> stephanie: fine, you're constitutional scholars but i'm not. >> the server crashed at 11:13 they bounced over to -- i don't know where they went -- but they were able to keep them from flipping the votes. that's why rove was so stunned. that's why he didn't bother to write -- >> stephanie: somebody said that. wonder if we can hack it back. maybe we did. >> that's what i called for back then. >> stephanie: except for when we did it it wasn't cheating. it was just winning. winning. drinker. what? is it too late for charlie sheenism? the headline is g.o.p.'s benghazi conspiracy falls apart. white house did not change susan rice's -- any apology to susan rice yet? >> it is not the policy. >> stephanie: for you to apologize ever? not the policy for you not to be bitter? >> clouds! >> fox news dropped benghazi yesterday. >> stephanie: interesting. we'll talk about that when we get back. 17 minutes after the
can john kerry be retroactively named president after president obama? >> no. >> stephanie: why not? >> because. >> stephanie: okay. >> no, he can't be. >> stephanie: fine, you're constitutional scholars but i'm not. >> the server crashed at 11:13 they bounced over to -- i don't know where they went -- but they were able to keep them from flipping the votes. that's why rove was so stunned. that's why he didn't bother to write -- >> stephanie:...
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i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense. jon: we're going to leave it there. we'll see. it is the president's choice to make. >> that's right. jon: we'll see which choice he does make. thank you both, marjorie clifton, angela mcglowan. >> thank you. jenna: speaker boehner talking about this morning so far, met with treasury secretary tim geithner, all of this having to do with the fiscal crisis and what would happen. what will become of these negotiations between republicans and democrats. we'll take a listen to the speaker a little bit here before we go to break. you can watch the entire re
i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense....
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finally, josh kerry is the other -- john kerry is the other possible main candidate for secretary of state. your thoughts on him? >> threw away his war medals, called his fellow soldiers in vietnam war criminals and then during a debate in 2004 said the united states should not use force internationally without getting the approval of everybody else. that's not somebody i want to see as secretary of state. megyn: who do you like? >> hard to think. megyn: [laughter] >> carl levin, very experienced man. megyn: we'll leave it at that. >> leave it at that. megyn: general, great to see you. all the best, sir. >>> coming up, the senate homeland security committee holding a hearing, we will speak with one of the senators in on that hearing. >>> plus a woman on trial accused of befriending and killing a lottery winner. >>> and new technology offering parents a window to their child's future. we'll show you how you can figure out if your baby is at risk of becoming obese. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a
finally, josh kerry is the other -- john kerry is the other possible main candidate for secretary of state. your thoughts on him? >> threw away his war medals, called his fellow soldiers in vietnam war criminals and then during a debate in 2004 said the united states should not use force internationally without getting the approval of everybody else. that's not somebody i want to see as secretary of state. megyn: who do you like? >> hard to think. megyn: [laughter] >> carl...
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we'll see this john kerry and susan rice are too on that team and perhaps hagel as well. we'll let you go and see you tonight on special report. bill: is the president sending a signal on flexibility when it comes to tax rates, or is he holding firm? remember this? >> i also believed everybody should have a fair shot, and everybody should do their their fair share and play by the rules. because these how economies are grown. bill: can both side talk themselves into a real deal? martha: an update on the bell ringer's this holiday season. they are back on the streets but one city says they can only be there under one condition. bill: uh-ho. >> thank you so much, happy holidays. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. martha: here we go, folks, a basket brawl in boston at the sel
we'll see this john kerry and susan rice are too on that team and perhaps hagel as well. we'll let you go and see you tonight on special report. bill: is the president sending a signal on flexibility when it comes to tax rates, or is he holding firm? remember this? >> i also believed everybody should have a fair shot, and everybody should do their their fair share and play by the rules. because these how economies are grown. bill: can both side talk themselves into a real deal? martha: an...
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after the benghazi debacle i heard more it would be john kerry because a lot of people rightly recognized that sending susan rice up there would turn it into a benghazi circus where everyone will want to be talking about benghazi. we had the press conference where the president, he's clearly very dug in on this. when i say it's arrogant, it's clear that he has just either complete contempt for the media, or just believes that he can just do whatever he wants because the idea that he would send her up there, put her under oath and have her be forced to answer these questions, and i think mccain is right, it's not about susan rice it's about the president. but he's going to put her in the line of fire. i think it just shows arrogance. it's him basically saying, look we clearly misled people, nobody seems to care so i'm going to just send her up there. martha: do you believe he intends to do that, that nothing has changed or he's been emboldened in recent weeks? >> i really read that press conference to mean he's going to nominate her. i've asked around, i don't think anybody knows for sure,
after the benghazi debacle i heard more it would be john kerry because a lot of people rightly recognized that sending susan rice up there would turn it into a benghazi circus where everyone will want to be talking about benghazi. we had the press conference where the president, he's clearly very dug in on this. when i say it's arrogant, it's clear that he has just either complete contempt for the media, or just believes that he can just do whatever he wants because the idea that he would send...
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he may go for an easier option, and that would be senator john kerry of massachusetts. he's someone who could, relatively speaking, glide through the senate with ease compared to susan rice at this point. it all depends on how benghazi shapes up. if it's looking like there's not going to be a big investigation, then susan rice looks like the more likely option. it all depends on how big of a fight he wants in the senate. rick: how wig of a story -- how big of a story do you think it is going to turn out to be, bebb ghazi? -- benghazi? i've heard people compare it to watergate given that no one died from watergate. as we take a look at what we know, what information we have available to us, what do you think is the potential here with this story? >> it depends because we've got a split congress. in the senate, it's run by democrats. they were having closed-door investigations last week, and a lot of democrats told me that they saw this as something that would be difficult to get to the bottom of, full of vague information and, you know, this whole fog of war thing. will
he may go for an easier option, and that would be senator john kerry of massachusetts. he's someone who could, relatively speaking, glide through the senate with ease compared to susan rice at this point. it all depends on how benghazi shapes up. if it's looking like there's not going to be a big investigation, then susan rice looks like the more likely option. it all depends on how big of a fight he wants in the senate. rick: how wig of a story -- how big of a story do you think it is going to...
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i think when, the united states, when we had issues that were important to us, we sent john kerry to sudan, that's a level of engagement that we need to step up. what we're seeing here, this rebel group taking a city of a million people, carving this area into keystones, kind of imposing terror there, precipitated in the passing of 3 million lives. >> we have to be engaged in a sustained way. we have been involved there. u.s. military trained a congo battalion that has proven effective. but it's only one. it's all about security. they don't have the security forces in that region. if we could work actively to train security forces we could make an enormous difference. >> interesting that you say that, anecdotely, some of our people lost their car in a ditch, the army guys pulled up to help get the people out after ditch, here we go, it's going to be bribery. they brought the car out, they waved good-bye. they said, no problem. it turned out to be the one unit of their armed we trained, so this progress is possible and, as you know, this country was the subject of the single piece of
i think when, the united states, when we had issues that were important to us, we sent john kerry to sudan, that's a level of engagement that we need to step up. what we're seeing here, this rebel group taking a city of a million people, carving this area into keystones, kind of imposing terror there, precipitated in the passing of 3 million lives. >> we have to be engaged in a sustained way. we have been involved there. u.s. military trained a congo battalion that has proven effective....
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and massachusetts senator john kerry emerging as an alternative. in a clear message to the white house, collins said kerry would have no problem winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post election time at his family's home in southern california. wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall of that one? ♪ awkward >> slightly. or maybe they will actually be more, more warm and hospitable than we think. >> you think with such a partisan, divisive election. you wonder how they kind of break that ice, and the president with his political role model, lincoln. team rival. there was at some point, romney would be treasury secretary. a little unlikely. at least give romney a role in some economic council or advisory position. >> the president has gone on record
and massachusetts senator john kerry emerging as an alternative. in a clear message to the white house, collins said kerry would have no problem winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post...
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kerry as his replacement for secretary of state hillary clinton. at this point, aides say to me that the president knows he can't let this linger much longer, can't leave rice or kerry hanging in the wind. expect an announcement perhaps by early next weeks. >> chuck todd at the white house, thank you very much. >>> we want to turn and get a check of the day's other top stories. natalie morales over at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, everyone. >>> ex-cia chief general david petraeus spoke out about his affair with biographer paula broadwell in a letter to his colleague james shelton nbc news has learned this morning. in the november 20th note, petraeus says, quote, i screwed up royally and tells shelton, quote, i paid the price appropriately and i sought to do the right thing at the end of the day. petraeus also praises his wife for standing by him. the affair brought about petraeus' resignation earlier this month. >>> renewed fears this morning that egypt could be on the verge of a second popular revolution as mohamed morsi addresses
kerry as his replacement for secretary of state hillary clinton. at this point, aides say to me that the president knows he can't let this linger much longer, can't leave rice or kerry hanging in the wind. expect an announcement perhaps by early next weeks. >> chuck todd at the white house, thank you very much. >>> we want to turn and get a check of the day's other top stories. natalie morales over at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, everyone. >>>...
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they have no wellspring of sympathy with her, the way they actually probably do with john kerry, her potential rival to secretary of state, having taken a bunch of delegation trips with mccain around the world. i don't think it should be disqualifying if obama decides to choose her as the next secretary of state. she's the ambassador to u.n. she's not in charge of intelligence and not in charge of intelligence reports. it is simultaneously true they scrub the reports she got of any al qaeda mention. that was probably done within the intelligence community herself. her job as u.n. ambassador was to tell what that intelligence report said on the sunday shows and that's what she did. i don't think there's any reason to disqualify her based on anything that's happened in the last year. and, frankly, i guess i'd cut her a little slack for some of the political attacks she's taken. i guess i don't agree with graham and mccain on this one. but if you're going to be a diplomat, you should probably be diplomatic all the way around. ( laughter ) you're going to come in for a little criticism.
they have no wellspring of sympathy with her, the way they actually probably do with john kerry, her potential rival to secretary of state, having taken a bunch of delegation trips with mccain around the world. i don't think it should be disqualifying if obama decides to choose her as the next secretary of state. she's the ambassador to u.n. she's not in charge of intelligence and not in charge of intelligence reports. it is simultaneously true they scrub the reports she got of any al qaeda...
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power in the region, maybe susan rice will be more alard than john kerry. >> chris: kirsten will the president name her. >> i don't know. if he does, that kind of arrogance, which is what i think it could be, could be his undoing, if she's put under oath and forced to go through and answer all of these questions about benghazi, i think it is going to put the administration in a really bad position and i don't think she was the front-runner. i don't understand where it came out of, everything i had heard was, she was in the running, and it was really leaning more towards john kerry and we have a press conference with the president, the president kind of went off, about susan rice, and, it has now become almost a sense of pride. so -- >> chris: you think he cornered himself in the press conference? >> i do. >> chris: saying what he said and if he doesn't name her it looks like he is caving. >> i feel he did and i don't know it was intentional and he went a little overboard. his defense of her was fine to a point and then it went into an area that wasn't -- didn't really make sense. and
power in the region, maybe susan rice will be more alard than john kerry. >> chris: kirsten will the president name her. >> i don't know. if he does, that kind of arrogance, which is what i think it could be, could be his undoing, if she's put under oath and forced to go through and answer all of these questions about benghazi, i think it is going to put the administration in a really bad position and i don't think she was the front-runner. i don't understand where it came out of,...
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she worked for john kerry in the '04 campaign. she was in the clinton administration as an assistant secretary for africa. her policies in africa and suh --sudan were controversial. there were other issues she's been involved in, but she's got a very big job at the u.n. there are meetings on thursday and a general assembly vote has been scheduled on palestinian statehood. a vote that's gripped the attention of all of the middle east and the middle east experts. and presumably, the u.n. ambassador ought to be someone well regarded around the world and is and now she's fighting for her future life in this very partisan atmosphere in washington. it's puzzling. the white house is sticking by her for now. she's not yet been nominated. harry reid said they believe the committees in charge chaired by john kerry should be in charge of this and not members from other committees like homeland security and intelligence and armed services who are getting involved in this. but as you pointed out, none of the republican senators asking question
she worked for john kerry in the '04 campaign. she was in the clinton administration as an assistant secretary for africa. her policies in africa and suh --sudan were controversial. there were other issues she's been involved in, but she's got a very big job at the u.n. there are meetings on thursday and a general assembly vote has been scheduled on palestinian statehood. a vote that's gripped the attention of all of the middle east and the middle east experts. and presumably, the u.n....
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wants an easy confirmation hearing and process, nominate john kerry, who is imminently qualified to be secretary of state and i believe he would sail through in the nominating process. >> joining me now, ari mel ber. ari, you're coming to us tonight from kerry country, boston and i've got to think this is a horrible moment for senator kerry. you don't want to be the guy who gets praise from the mindless attackers of susan rice. >> yeah, i don't think he wants any part of this very weird boomerang play the republicans are trying to practice. he knows her well because as chairman of foreign relations committee, he oversees the state department, looking at the diplomacy and ambassadors and working with secretary clinton and ambassador rice. >> well, today, ambassador rice met with susan collins and bob corker and here are the lies those senators told after the meeting. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of the contentious presidential election campaign. >> i would just ask the president t
wants an easy confirmation hearing and process, nominate john kerry, who is imminently qualified to be secretary of state and i believe he would sail through in the nominating process. >> joining me now, ari mel ber. ari, you're coming to us tonight from kerry country, boston and i've got to think this is a horrible moment for senator kerry. you don't want to be the guy who gets praise from the mindless attackers of susan rice. >> yeah, i don't think he wants any part of this very...
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john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is expected to released within the next 72 hours. >>> coming up, president obama may be meeting with governor romney today but also hosting other special and possibly much, much smarter guests at the white house. we'll reveal the vips next. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the
john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is...
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mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the election so there's some of that but one thing i would point out to you from senator collins' remarks is that she is still looking for answers from susan rice about a time in 1998 when she was in charge of the region and in the state department when our embassy in kenya was bombed so these senators are moving to a point of saying that susan rice may not be qualified to be secretary of state and i think that's an important thing to be looking at, going one step beyond. she's not qualified in their opinion. >> i get what you're saying there and if that's their opinion and they want to use, for example,
mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the election so there's some of that but one thing i would point out...
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now he needs to make it great, naming john kerry to replace secretary clinton fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone in history. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the president itself. kerry won 252 electoral votes back in 2004 against a sitting chief executive, a wartime president at that. a leading critic of the war in vietnam, a five-time elected senate, the chairman of the senate of foreign relations committee has contacts around the world. he's just the sort of heavyweight obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together this week for ambassador susan rice. the president is right about their bad purposes and bad arguments. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting used to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when their real
now he needs to make it great, naming john kerry to replace secretary clinton fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone in history. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the president itself. kerry won 252 electoral votes back in 2004 against a sitting chief executive, a wartime president at that. a leading critic of the war in vietnam, a five-time elected senate,...
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naming john kerry fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. the secretary of state stands alone had history, holding the most stature but for the president himself. ker are ry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a leading critic of the war latinoer, a five-time sort the heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together for ambassador susan rice. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when the real complaint is something that she had nothing to do about, the death of our ambassador chris stevens. the real complaint was his opposition to the vietnam war on his return. swift voting is now sadly a practiced art. it's character assassination with a head fake. for president obama, the challenge for this week is to make the right pick for the country, not react one way or another to the jack kells out
naming john kerry fits that bill. picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. the secretary of state stands alone had history, holding the most stature but for the president himself. ker are ry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a leading critic of the war latinoer, a five-time sort the heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together for ambassador...
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you had the opportunity to work with john kerry before. >> sure. >> when we hear about this, is that really what the game, as joy-ann said, this machiavellian game, basically let's get kerry in this position and then scott brown could take over his seat, run for that seat in massachusetts, we get scott brownbach in? >> this is a little delicate because i know so many people involved. this is what i'll tell you from what i have heard. i have heard senator kerry stands ready to serve and is interested. i have heard from people close to white house that president obama strongly believes in susan rice and is leaning towards selecting her. i think he'd be happy with either of them because they're such strong foreign policy people. but what i've heard at this point in time subject to change is they are serious absusan rice. there isn't a big head fake here at this point. >> chip, to ari's point about the fact that rice is at a deficit going after ambassador rice on such an attack, such shaky ground, is it completely irrational what they're doing with ayotte and graham and mccain coming out
you had the opportunity to work with john kerry before. >> sure. >> when we hear about this, is that really what the game, as joy-ann said, this machiavellian game, basically let's get kerry in this position and then scott brown could take over his seat, run for that seat in massachusetts, we get scott brownbach in? >> this is a little delicate because i know so many people involved. this is what i'll tell you from what i have heard. i have heard senator kerry stands ready to...
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kerry and now her rival to become secretary of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell reporting. >>> as most people focus on susan rice and john kerry as the frontrunners for the secretary of state job, a new report suggest that's former republican senator chuck hagel is also vetted by the white house for a potential security post. >>> overseas, egyptian president mohamed morsi is expected to call for unity while addressing his nation today. tension still very high after he issued an edict that will give him sweeping power above the reach of judicial review until a new constitution is adopted. they're rushing to finish a new draft of the consti
kerry and now her rival to become secretary of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell...
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kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raised the 1998 bombings, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania when susan rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs in the bill clinton administration in basically in the state department back then and what was her responsibility over that? susan collins said we hadn't learned the lessons and she had troubling questions about that. she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more potential, is more worrisome for advocates fo
kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raised the 1998 bombings, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania when susan rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs in the bill clinton administration in basically in the state...
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>> kristol's argument is rice has appeared more interventionist than john kerry. so the softening does not mean an end to the partisan battle over benghazi. republicans made it clear if rice is nominated they plan to make her confirmation hearing a proxy fight for their sustained prosecution of what they believe is the poor response to the september 11th attack. >> when she comes over, if she does, a lot of questions asked of her about this event and others. we're going to hold people accountable for a major national security breakdown three weeks before the election. that is our job. >> why did the administration think it had to cover up all of the things that occurred before by putting out to the american people the narrative that i think will be absolutely false? >> some republicans privately suggest the shift in the tone is a function of pragmatism that with just 45 seats in the senate, a filibuster of rice's nomination is much tougher to achaef. one senate aide told the associated press, quote, there's a definite sense within the caucus that you have to be co
>> kristol's argument is rice has appeared more interventionist than john kerry. so the softening does not mean an end to the partisan battle over benghazi. republicans made it clear if rice is nominated they plan to make her confirmation hearing a proxy fight for their sustained prosecution of what they believe is the poor response to the september 11th attack. >> when she comes over, if she does, a lot of questions asked of her about this event and others. we're going to hold...
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george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be in charge of building new business or something. >> look, it's -- this is a moment when american democracy functions. it's rare, as i said before, that presidents do this or that the winning candidate does this. there is the iconic picture of kennedy and nixon in 1960 when nixon went to visit the preelect. more common is what happened with franklin roosevelt who is sitting in the car with herbert hoover. he is glowering. he won't speak to roosevelt. roosevelt points up at the steel on the commerce department building and says, isn't that a remarkable superstructur
george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be...